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	<title>Comments on: How &#8216;white spaces&#8217; could spark a tech revolution</title>
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		<title>By: Watcher</title>
		<link>http://www.techcentral.co.za/how-white-spaces-could-spark-a-tech-revolution/26641/comment-page-1/#comment-68224</link>
		<dc:creator>Watcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is probably worth pointing out that the current analogue TV transmitters pump out 100&#039;s of kiloWatts of RF power, and have been doing so since the mid-1970s.  The telecom kit working in the white spaces is likely to be both frequency agile and at power levels measured in Watts.  Putting it in other terms, the TV transmitters are like the speaker stacks at a rock concert while the whitespace transmitters will be music from your cellphone speaker.  The incremental impact will be zip....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is probably worth pointing out that the current analogue TV transmitters pump out 100&#8242;s of kiloWatts of RF power, and have been doing so since the mid-1970s.  The telecom kit working in the white spaces is likely to be both frequency agile and at power levels measured in Watts.  Putting it in other terms, the TV transmitters are like the speaker stacks at a rock concert while the whitespace transmitters will be music from your cellphone speaker.  The incremental impact will be zip&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Fraser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Fraser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2011 06:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always surprised at how these anti-EM campaigners state with such certainty that EM radiation causes negative effects, and hysterically shout about the health effects in the most emotive language... but then can offer no objective evidence of the impact.

There are to my knowledge, no ( nada, zero, zip) scientifically conducted studies that have indicated a direct causal link between electromagnetic radiation at the levels used for telecommunication and negative health effects.  

The hysteria is clearly demonstrated in your post above, Karl.  These frequency bands have been used for decades for the transmission of TV signals (at much higher average power levels than telecommunications on 802.22) .  South Africa started broadcasts in the 70s, I&#039;d think that the effects would be noticed by now.  Or are you arguing that, by some obscene twist of fate, that only the guard channel frequencies are dangerous?

Lastly, when you tune into these frequencies on your TV, you may notice a lot of static or EM noise - that&#039;s the sound of the universe.  The earth has been bombarded by electromagnetic waves in these frequencies, every second of every day, since its formation.  If these were so harmful, you don&#039;t think that we&#039;d notice?

If you are genuinely concerned, I can assist with a very stylish range of aluminum foil head protection apparel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always surprised at how these anti-EM campaigners state with such certainty that EM radiation causes negative effects, and hysterically shout about the health effects in the most emotive language&#8230; but then can offer no objective evidence of the impact.</p>
<p>There are to my knowledge, no ( nada, zero, zip) scientifically conducted studies that have indicated a direct causal link between electromagnetic radiation at the levels used for telecommunication and negative health effects.  </p>
<p>The hysteria is clearly demonstrated in your post above, Karl.  These frequency bands have been used for decades for the transmission of TV signals (at much higher average power levels than telecommunications on 802.22) .  South Africa started broadcasts in the 70s, I&#8217;d think that the effects would be noticed by now.  Or are you arguing that, by some obscene twist of fate, that only the guard channel frequencies are dangerous?</p>
<p>Lastly, when you tune into these frequencies on your TV, you may notice a lot of static or EM noise &#8211; that&#8217;s the sound of the universe.  The earth has been bombarded by electromagnetic waves in these frequencies, every second of every day, since its formation.  If these were so harmful, you don&#8217;t think that we&#8217;d notice?</p>
<p>If you are genuinely concerned, I can assist with a very stylish range of aluminum foil head protection apparel.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Mahlknecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Mahlknecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Allowing all the &quot;white space&quot; to be used for communication will only see a rise in illnesses and social pathology 

If the frequencies all around these white spaces have been used for decades, why hasn&#039;t this happened yet?  Or do you think all the world&#039;s problems are due to TV broadcasts?  Or perhaps the randomly allocated frequecies, by a stroke of immense luck, happen to all be on frequencies that don&#039;t affect us?

&gt;&gt;Not a single thought is given to the effects on the environment.      

If this is true, why are the service providers the world over always moan about how long it takes, and how much they have to do to get environmental impact studies done?

How long is &quot;long enough&quot; to study, and will you ever be satisfied with any test the scientific community can come up with?  Or will you keep finding other things to blame on radiation?  Perhaps it contributed to the particularly large outbreak of fleas my dog suffered this spring - I&#039;ve yet to see a study conclusively proving it doesn&#039;t increase the reproductive rate of fleas.

All this brings me back to the question I always wonder about - what do you propose?  What&#039;s the end-game of you anti-radiation crowd - are you wanting to eliminate all forms of wireless communication and broadcasting from the earth?   </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Allowing all the &#8220;white space&#8221; to be used for communication will only see a rise in illnesses and social pathology </p>
<p>If the frequencies all around these white spaces have been used for decades, why hasn&#8217;t this happened yet?  Or do you think all the world&#8217;s problems are due to TV broadcasts?  Or perhaps the randomly allocated frequecies, by a stroke of immense luck, happen to all be on frequencies that don&#8217;t affect us?</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;Not a single thought is given to the effects on the environment.      </p>
<p>If this is true, why are the service providers the world over always moan about how long it takes, and how much they have to do to get environmental impact studies done?</p>
<p>How long is &#8220;long enough&#8221; to study, and will you ever be satisfied with any test the scientific community can come up with?  Or will you keep finding other things to blame on radiation?  Perhaps it contributed to the particularly large outbreak of fleas my dog suffered this spring &#8211; I&#8217;ve yet to see a study conclusively proving it doesn&#8217;t increase the reproductive rate of fleas.</p>
<p>All this brings me back to the question I always wonder about &#8211; what do you propose?  What&#8217;s the end-game of you anti-radiation crowd &#8211; are you wanting to eliminate all forms of wireless communication and broadcasting from the earth?   </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have yet to read any conclusive evidence that cellular signals cause any negative impact on human health. I have read extensively on the subject since we met a few years ago and I have yet to come across a single reliable scientific study that proves any negative impact on human health. In fact, there appears to be no credible evidence that the low levels of non-ionising radiation produced by cellphone signals have any harmful effects whatsoever. It&#039;s more dangerous to stand in direct sunlight for a few minutes.

I call quackery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have yet to read any conclusive evidence that cellular signals cause any negative impact on human health. I have read extensively on the subject since we met a few years ago and I have yet to come across a single reliable scientific study that proves any negative impact on human health. In fact, there appears to be no credible evidence that the low levels of non-ionising radiation produced by cellphone signals have any harmful effects whatsoever. It&#8217;s more dangerous to stand in direct sunlight for a few minutes.</p>
<p>I call quackery.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl_Muller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl_Muller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No form of pollution has proliferated like electromagnetic smog over the last decade or so. And the health effects of this bombardment are only just emerging.

Every new frequency used has the capacity to trigger some new health problem -- whether it be a brainwave frequency, or a calcium efflux frequency from the cell, or the wavelength just resonating with some body part, like the eyeball -- each new radiation type creates its own effects.

Allowing all the &quot;white space&quot; to be used for communication will only see a rise in illnesses and social pathology -- rages, depression, suicide, you name it. But there is no chance of anyone stopping this technology until complete disaster strikes. Not a single thought is given to the effects on the environment. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No form of pollution has proliferated like electromagnetic smog over the last decade or so. And the health effects of this bombardment are only just emerging.</p>
<p>Every new frequency used has the capacity to trigger some new health problem &#8212; whether it be a brainwave frequency, or a calcium efflux frequency from the cell, or the wavelength just resonating with some body part, like the eyeball &#8212; each new radiation type creates its own effects.</p>
<p>Allowing all the &#8220;white space&#8221; to be used for communication will only see a rise in illnesses and social pathology &#8212; rages, depression, suicide, you name it. But there is no chance of anyone stopping this technology until complete disaster strikes. Not a single thought is given to the effects on the environment. </p>
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		<title>By: Jim Carlson</title>
		<link>http://www.techcentral.co.za/how-white-spaces-could-spark-a-tech-revolution/26641/comment-page-1/#comment-68194</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Carlson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> I agree this is a good solution for South Africa and anywhere that has environmental obstacles to wireless deployment. I wanted to let you know that Arcata-based hardware firm Carlson is partnering with  Neul, a software firm in the UK, to produce an even faster, more affordable white space broadband radio than the ones each company currently produces. This new product is set to be internationally available by the end of the year. www.carlsonwireless.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I agree this is a good solution for South Africa and anywhere that has environmental obstacles to wireless deployment. I wanted to let you know that Arcata-based hardware firm Carlson is partnering with  Neul, a software firm in the UK, to produce an even faster, more affordable white space broadband radio than the ones each company currently produces. This new product is set to be internationally available by the end of the year. <a href="http://www.carlsonwireless.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.carlsonwireless.com</a></p>
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