Free State defends website spend

The spending has been audited by the office of the Auditor General, provincial spokesman Mondli Mvambi says.

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A total of 38 websites, and not only one, form part of the Free State’s multi-year integrated website project, the provincial government said on Tuesday.

“In total, 38 reengineered websites form part of this project, including the provincial government’s utilisation of social media platforms such as Facebook and Twitter,” said spokesman Mondli Mvambi.

The project included websites for the 11 provincial departments, three provincial public entities and 24 municipalities.

Mvambi was reacting to reports that the Free State government was paying as much as R140m for the development of a government website.

He said the total project of 38 websites cost R24m in the 2011/2012 finance year, and would cost R23,8m in the 2012/13 finance year.

Since the start of the project in 2011, the Free State premier’s department had financed about R14,8m of the project. This formed part of the R23,8m budgeted for in the 2012/2013 book year.

This expenditure had audited by the Office of the Auditor General, said Mvambi.

“The premier’s department obtained an unqualified audit, also known as a clean audit, for the 2011/2012 financial year.”

The State IT Agency (Sita) was responsible for the hosting and security of the websites in the project.

The consortium of Cherry-Online-Ikamva-Jugganaut, in association with various community radio stations, had been appointed to deal with design, research, content development and generation in the first phase of the project.

The second phase would bring community radio stations on board with continuous content development, and updating and broadcasting of news and activities.

The three-year tender award was published in the provincial tender bulletin of 24 February 2012.

Mvambi said the project had experienced two major setbacks. The Sita servers crashed in October and again two weeks ago, resulting in the loss of a lot of information. The project involved 20 000 approved documents.

Mvambi said the project was now in the final phase, involving a review of the websites of the 24 municipalities.

The province said the Free State government and municipalities’ online presence was fragmented, outdated and cluttered with irrelevant information before 2011.

The project was aimed at not only improving this, but at addressing legislative and regulatory compliance aspects of departments, entities and municipalities.

Mvambi said provincial departments and entities had to comply with Treasury instructions on the information to be posted on a website.

Municipalities also had to comply with legislative prescripts in the Municipal Finance Management Act about the running of a website.  — Sapa

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    A better coarse of action would rather be to challenge the web design experts who’ve indicated just how skilled they are to deliver the same requirements; to tackle creating the same for another province say Limpopo. I’m pretty sure they’ll be faced with similar challenges as those of the Free State province and if they are able to deliver the same at a fraction of what was actually spent then great, they will have given themselves a Big Thumbs UP and can move onto doing the same for other provinces.

    Whilst working on the Limpopo website, as a suggestion they should also consider a method that can be made available on the website to track delivery of text books. Being useful works a whole lot better than just complaining on TechCentral, but what would I know… I don’t have an IT company and I suppose identifying opportunities where you can prove yourself and step up to the mark is not what business people who follow TechCentral do.

  • Guido

    Not bad for a couple of wordpress sites with a $40 skin

  • Jamie

    Vusi…. I am pretty sure there are thousands of web designers in this country that could put together all 38 web sites for less than R80k per site.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    Jamie, I’m not questioning that… Just how much business does one bring in from criticism posted on TechCentral? There’s definitely a requirement for online systems that can improve the efficiency of government and this to me presents an opportunity.

    When you learn that with every problem comes an opportunity then you’re better able to grab the spotlight; but it seems that the so called web design experts that follow TechCentral can only see the “very blatantly obvious problem”. Makes me really wonder if they are actually able to come up with solutions… all it takes is stepping up to the mark and this to me looks like a real opportunity to showcase one’s expertise whilst also having another well publicized website as a comparison of just how superior your service offering is.

    It’s just a thought… no need to use it, since it’s more profitable to be complaining on TechCentral.

  • Greg Mahlknecht

    From another article about this:

    “The Sowetan reported that Ntsele’s company was awarded the tender even though two other companies submitted significantly lower bids”

    Seems like the “web design experts” did exactly what you suggested, but were steamrolled by the tenderpreneurs. Let’s hope exposing this farce will make the other provinces think twice about awarding contracts to their comrades, and the honest guys will get a chance to prove exactly what you propose! At the very least, the Free State government should release the other tender proposals, if the companies agree to it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    The website is now there for everyone to scrutinize and I’m hoping that the other provinces will soon award a tender to an IT company that prove itself to be more competent at a reasonable price and live up to the kind of expectation that makes one proudly South African.

  • Jamie

    I am not sure I understand your point. Any web developer would grab an opportunity to work on a government tender, especially since government tends to overpay for just about everything. The SA public have a right to complain. They are not getting value for their tax money and are rightly sick of it!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    Seeing as you’re like all the others in this country that have lost their ability to “Maak ‘n Plan” and need to be spoon fed so you understand the point I’m making. I will give you an example.

    This scandal has drawn the attention of many players in the industry. Instead of just joining in with criticism you could have taken the opportunity to include a link in your comment that would take everyone to a comparable website that showcases your work, also highlighting what you would have charged and how superior the website is in-comparison and at the same time wording your comment in a positive way that would get the attention of the other provinces.

    I started a blog at the beginning of this year and haven’t really focused on drawing traffic to it; but when I saw TechCentral’s article regarding online spin with the Oscar Pistorius saga, I grabbed the opportunity to include a link to a blog I wrote in the comment I made. Needless to say, I got the most views for any blog post thus far for my new WordPress blog created just two months ago.

    Jamie, you can choose to continue with negative thinking and see exactly what it will do for you in your life. The consequences of it can end up being as bad as what has happened to Oscar or you can decide to change your thinking and “Maak ‘n Plan” you don’t need me to spoon feed you.

  • http://twitter.com/Clint_ZA Clint

    Vusi, you appear to be excusing the fact that this happened in the first place? And this is not the first story, and I doubt it’ll be the last, of the ANC squandering tax payers money. And to rub salt in the wounds its happening at a time when the finance minister is telling us all about needing to tighten the belts.

    We should indeed “learn a lesson” from this but have we not already been taught plenty lessons about corruption? The true way to teach a lesson is to ensure that those responsible are made to pay. Dismiss them. Fine them. Jail them if need be. Stop protecting and defending them, which appears to be what the ANC always do, yourself included.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    I have empathy with the shared sentiments of all South Africans that corruption has to be dealt with harshly, more so than you’ll probably believe. In your anxiousness to see something being done, what seems to happen is that most people forget the due processes that need to be followed.

    When you want to weed out corruption, you need to take it out with all it’s roots. The process of dealing with Julius may have taken a long time but it has ensured that his supporting root system has also been taken out. The people that you are dealing with here are not only corrupt but also influential and so you don’t want to have a loophole for them to show their heads once again after you’ve taken them out.

  • 4u2discuss

    What you have to say is rather disturbing (Vusi Sibiya) as it implies that you support corruption and the gravy train passengers. What we need is not approval of others work, but acknowledgement that some wrong doing has taken place.

    All those who follow “TECHCENTRAL” know what the true cost of such a web site should be, and those of us who have some sense of political understanding know what a seat on the gravy train is worth.

    That being said, it should be noted that seats on the gravy train are often (not voluntarily mind you) exchanged for vacations in the big house with bars around the windows and gates that are locked by others so the holiday makers cant run off and enjoy their free time…

    All those involved in this blatant corruption should be charged and sent to spend some time at the big house.

    The tender process needs to be monitored by independent parties, and not inside political appointees who are guarding their seats on the gravy train….

  • 4u2discuss

    Vusi Sibiya Corruption needs to be addressed, and you seem to be condoning corruption…. and showing empathy instead of outrage…..

    Looking at your surname, it appears that you are not of European decent, and from this we can start to imagine that you will play the race card….

    your wording also shows this, as does your apparent support for our friend “Julius” We need action. those involved need to be removed form office…

    R140 000 000.00 for website development is outrageous and you need to acknowledge this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    If supporting corruption has in any way been implied, it certainly wasn’t so intended. The ANC government like all governments the world over will forever be plagued with the scourge and even if we had the DA in power there’d still be problems with corruption.

    Yes, when people are found to be guilty, then the full might of the law must deal with them but if you’re not going to move forward with helping yourself and seeing opportunity in any problem then you’d only be letting yourself down. There’s an ideal world where governments without corruption exist and that is definitely not on planet Earth.

  • 4u2discuss

    Time to play the race card…

    in my opinion most people reading here are not racist, but when applying for any government tender the race card is a big issue.

    JUST THINK OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION in simple English this means all government work is reserved for non whites…

    So most of us would be disqualified from tendering on these websites anyway.

    why bother to tender when you know that you will not receive the work because it has been reserved for the politicians friends……!!!!

    use this example to show case the problem and ensure that those responsible go to jail……this may cause some people to catch a wake up, and start to see things for what they are….

    WE have big problems in South Africa, and as long as things like AFFIRMATIVE ACTION are in place and supported by corrupt officials as a tool to ensure their friends get the work things like spending R 140 000 000.00 on web sites that do not deliver the goods will be around to cause a stir..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    I am not of European decent and looking at my surname, I would think that would be blatantly obvious. What good does it do, to go on and on about something that is as obvious as the corruption we see from certain rotten apples within the government.

    The ANC is committed to rooting out corruption as it certainly hinders progress and reflects badly on government and the party. Do you believe that you’re the only people that can see corruption?

    You can continue with pointing out the obvious, as you’ve so skillfully demonstrated with the observation of my surname but I’d be working on a real plan for getting into power if I were the opposition.

  • 4u2discuss

    Who rules is relevant to me, I am not into the power struggle issue. I just want to live a comfortable life, and know that my children are safe.

    As long as guys like you continue to support idiots and racists at parliamentary level , where everything is about punishing the white population for their ancestors activities, changing street names which cost millions of rands, and pushing the BBBEE (Broad Based Black Economic Empowerment) issue just to ensure that those of European decent are punished for the colour of their skin, we will not be safe, and criminals will be supported at parliamentary level for political gain.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    Your “Me First” attitude is exactly what will make your children unsafe. Do you imagine that the overwhelming number of young black people are going to accept that everything from the past should be just swept aside and no correction of existing imbalances should take place, so that your children can be safe?

    The government is doing all it can to avert a situation that definitely has the potential turn this country into a place of “Doom and Gloom” The majority of Black people were willing to see things work out for the best for our country as demonstrated by the transition to democracy but that should not be taken to mean that they are fools that will allow things to continue with a minority still enjoying all the wealth and believing there’s no need for reparation.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    Thanx! More clear constructive feedback that points us in a direction that facilitates improvements and helps with getting rid of inefficiencies.

  • http://twitter.com/waynegemmell Wayne Gemmell

    Yeah, just because the checks and balances were in place doesn’t mean they weren’t ripped off. Follow the money…

  • http://twitter.com/Clint_ZA Clint

    Please do not fool yourself into thinking Malema’s dismissal was as a result of corrupt practices, it was clearly politically motivated.

    And due process is great but that’s not what we appear to have. We seem to have a situation where a lengthy enquiry is called for, with the person sometimes suspended on FULL pay, until such time as the media attention dies down, and then it is business as usual. Of course, these inquiries conveniently provide yet another opportunity for a cadre or two to get rich by charging a fortune for it…..

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    How is not paying tax politically motivated? Even Al Capone’s lawyers will attest to that being a demise of his own doing. There’s nothing politically motivated about Malema’s demise. He just grew too BIG for his own EGO and didn’t realize that the ANC is bigger than any one individual.

  • 4u2discuss

    VUSI !!! wake up, and feel your coffee, its cold coz you been dreaming…

    Before the 1994 elections it was ANC policy to make things difficult for the state. That way of thinking was indoctrinated into the peoples life style, and those that did not follow suit were punished in the most horrifying manner (necklacing by burning Tyre or house burned down)

    This was politically motivated and was one of the primary weapons in the ANC arsenal that was used to force change in South Africa. NON PAYMENT of taxes was a big issue, and this way of thinking has not yet been addressed by the ANC since their victory in 1994.

    NON payment of taxes is a legacy of Apartheid introduced by the ANC by force, and it is still kept active by certain elements within the ANC for purposes of improving voter count…

    Mister Malema was following ANC policy, which is to rob the state in any which way you can…. this is still a legacy of apartheid, and was ANC policy before the 1994 election…. this has not been addressed, as it is an easy way for ANC CADRE’s to get rich and take the states cash, because white people pay taxes, and not blacks (perception)

  • 4u2discuss

    Vusi… Oh dear Vusi… you believe that the white population just sat on their hands and got rich……

    how could you be so silly?

    White people worked hard for what they got, they attended classes and were punished with a stick on the rear end when their marks were low. those who failed were forced to either repeat the year or drop out of school. if they were doing a trade, they were not allowed to go back to tech / college untill they had passed the exams which they had to pay for themselves.

    there were no free rides for the white school children, and those who under performed were forced to repeat the year at school and join their juniors, or go to the practical level and be laughed at.

    White people were forced to go through a 5 year apprenticeship, or pass a trade test before they were deemed as qualified, today the guys attend a three month stint at a college where a pass one pass all criteria sets the standard, and there are no failures, which by default implies that there were no passes of any value.

    So those people who apply for a job today are just out of school and expect to get the job done with zero experience and no skills as they attended a school where nothing was actualy taught because of the fail one fail all system.

    Oh dear Oh dear what a pity that Vusi is such a racist that his eyes are closed and his mind is shut … like they say in Afrikaans “hy is so toe soos a klei oss se gat” sorry bra… you asked for this….

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    Well now… if you are so clued up on how hard white people had it, then to put it into perspective you can multiply that hardship ten fold so you get an idea of how hard black people had under apartheid. Your ignorance is astounding and your pitiful lengthy elaboration confirms you as a true product of racism.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=527737873 Vusi Sibiya

    It takes you 5 days to come up with a comment on a conversation thread that has already lost it’s edge… just goes to show how little you actually know. Why don’t you crawl back oblivion from whence you came.

  • http://www.facebook.com/j.n.smit Jaco Smit

    and I’m just a normal IT admin and support techie. Imagine I could charge R1M for each point above… Pity I’m “Currently Disadvantaged…”
    Retirement…

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