Coke machines in SA to dispense free Wi-Fi

BT Global Services is installing free Wi-Fi access points in Coca-Cola vending machines in rural parts of South Africa.

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South African consumers will soon be able to quench their thirst and check their e-mail at the same time. Coca-Cola and BT Global Services have announced plans to offer free Wi-Fi Internet access in impoverished communities using Coke’s vending machines.

BT – formerly British Telecom – will provide connectivity, support and business training as part of the roll-out.

The pilot project has been launched in the rural Eastern Cape and in rural Mpumalanga.

Sites were chosen for their accessibility to local communities, the companies said.

The first site is at the Sasol Integrated Energy Centre in Qunu, near Mtata. “This is a popular spot for locals and is in close proximity to a taxi rank, attracting large numbers of people,” they said. The centre is managed by a predominantly female co-operative, which will benefit from the increased flow of people.

The second site is located at Thokozane Fast Food situated in Bushbuckridge.

Both outlets are in the vicinity of shopping centres and schools.

Internet access is offered for free via Wi-Fi without any purchase requirement of any kind and is accessible for the duration of the time spent at the outlets.

The companies intend to install “Wi-Fi coolers” in various parts of South Africa over time.

Coca-Cola South Africa chief information officer David Visser said that providing access to free Wi-Fi will allow students and schoolchildren to “increase their knowledge through research while also giving entrepreneurs and small business owners in the community the opportunity to manage some of their business aspects online”.  — © 2014 NewsCentral Media

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  • Greg Mahlknecht

    I haven’t done the studies, but I’ve seen the reports from the Canadian and Belgian governments who have done the largest and longest spanning studies in the world – millions of people over decades. Both concluded it’s safe.

  • Greg Mahlknecht

    You’re kidding, right? Blanket “radiation” scare-mongering is just stupid. Without the radiation from the sun the earth would be devoid of life. There are degrees of radiation, and the radiation these devices give off are about as harmless as what you get from the sun lazing in the shade of a tree on a cloudy day. In fact it’s probably less – with a solar panel the size of my body I could easily harness enough radiation there to power a cellphone. Which in turn could give off more harmless radiation.

  • Frederique Zug

    For who?? Dead people? How come disabled folks with implanted medical devices are thrown out to the wolves? Well Greg, how about a written guarantee disabled folks are 100% safe, can you do that for us?

  • Frederique Zug

    How come disabled folks with implanted medical devices are thrown out to the wolves? Well Greg, how about a written guarantee disabled folks are 100% safe, can you do that for us? Do you know what the compliance from the center of an
    WiFi antenna?

  • Greg Mahlknecht

    Sure, no problem. The burden of proof is on them if something goes wrong. I’d sign that guarantee.

  • Greg Mahlknecht

    >Cell phone and Wi-Fi radiation, is a “possible carcinogen” to humans, like DDT and lead

    And petrol. And the sun. And coffee. If you drive a car, drink coffee or go out in the day time, you cannot use this argument. Period. You can’t have it both ways.

  • Greg Mahlknecht

    Thanks for that link. It disproved your earlier point.

    >… A study that examined the effect of smart meters on pacemakers and implantable defibrillators found that the smart meters did not interfere with these devices.

    Your link. I assume you accept the information in it as being true?

  • Greg Mahlknecht

    The center of the antenna, you mean like if someone was stabbed with an antenna, the radiation they’d get from being in such close proximity to the center of it? I think we can both agree that’d be a bad thing.

  • Greg Mahlknecht

    You’re 100% right, I could not have said it better myself… Lindi is both ignorant, and creates fear 🙂

  • Frederique Zug

    So, if you don’t tell the truth, nobody will know how they died??? I think it’s called RISK MANAGEMENT.

  • Frederique Zug

    I’m sorry you can’t do it.

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  • abcxyz1

    Lindi, you touch a topic that I have been wondering about.

    Are there credible sources/research that you could share please?

  • Greg Mahlknecht

    You can’t go taking every looney at their word when they want to push the blame on to something, at some point they have to come up with some proof… what’s next – blaming the tooth fairy for stealing things when they get misplaced?

  • Frederique Zug

    Am I going to believe everything the loonies tell us? NO
    I have examples of power companies using the wrong test sets so their RF levels are far below acceptable levels. Those are loonies. I have example of these WRONG readings being posted on some medical sites. Which LOONEY should I believe? Are there people out their who claim to be suffering from so sort of RF/ Radiation / EMF sickness? YES, So all of these millions of folks are suffering from some sort imaginary sickness? That many? Am I going to call them LIARS? NO
    So why are you qualifies to say they are? So you have a post nominal for call sick folks LOONIES?

  • Greg Mahlknecht

    A quick search reveals 4-7% of the population suffer from being hypochondriacs. Split the difference at 5%, that’s 250 million people suffering from, as you put it “imaginary sickness”.

    The Radiation/EMF sickness numbers are an insignificant percentage of that 250 million, so yes – it’s quite possible they are suffering from an imaginary sickness. I wouldn’t call them liars, because they really do believe they’re telling the truth. They have a problem, but it’s not the problem they think they have.

    I still wonder why the EMF/Radiation people venture out in to daylight when it’s proven 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt that sunlight can cause cancer. Even worse, they expose their children to it. Why do they hate their children?

  • Frederique Zug

    Wait a minute stupid. Since when did I say “imaginary sickness”

    I didn’t claim to be a doctor like you do. I still missed the Post Nominal from your name.

    Sunlight is ionizing radiation and requires sun screen to protect children.

    Most household radiation is from cellphones at 1 watt and smart meters at 4 watts. The distance to compliance is 15cm’s for a cell phone and 20cm’s for a smart meter. How do you turn off a smart meter and stop your child from getting cancer back?
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  • Greg Mahlknecht

    >Wait a minute stupid. Since when did I say “imaginary sickness”

    2 posts up. Either that or someone is using your computer. Now who’s stupid?

    You’re just getting boring now, repeating the same old tired BS, and zero facts. Don’t expect any more replies.

  • Frederique Zug

    So where are the warnings if the M.P.E is 20cm’s?

  • Frederique Zug

    Your quote “Split the difference at 5%, that’s 250 million people suffering from, as ((you)) put it “imaginary sickness”.
    My quote “Wait a minute stupid. Since when did ((I ))say “imaginary sickness”
    ——————————————————————————
    Since when is telling the truth “repeating the same old tired BS, and zero facts” You really are a sick puppy.

  • Guest

    I moved our discussions here because here you also show your hypocritical behavior.
    You claim how hydro have conflict interest and yet your reference is from site which sell anti-radiation products…. They dont have conflict of interest?
    About our last comments

    Your last comment to me:

    “I’m the hypocrite? Yah right.
    Yell at the American Cancer Society, they are ones telling us smart meters bring back Cancer.
    It seems you are an expert, so answer a few questions to PROVE you are a ROCKET SCIENTIST.
    What is the MAXIMUM eirp allowed in the ISM band?
    What is the nominal power of an AMI7 smart meter?
    Now let’s see who is incompetent? STUPID”

    You are hypocrite because you are cited them, arent they claim that cell phone have more power that smart meter? arent you claim opposite? that why you are hypocryte.
    “Yell at the American Cancer Society” Why I should yell at them? you take their statements and claim opposite.
    “What is the MAXIMUM eirp allowed in the ISM band?”- 4W/cm^2

    “What is the nominal power of an AMI7 smart meter?” I know you will say 4 Watts dont you?

    Compared to you Im not incompetent. Now you answer my question with no excuses, show that you have BASIC knowledge in topic You wrote here “Radiation kills ” if you wrote such statment you should know mechanism or maybe you spread things you dont understand?. How radiation can cause cancer (mechanism)?. So what that you know how much power have smart meter if you dont know how its act to human body show us that you are not complete Stupid.”

  • Frederique Zug

    Guest said ” yet your reference is from site which sell anti-radiation products…. They dont have conflict of interest?”
    Who might that be???<—————————

    Guest said "How radiation can cause cancer (mechanism)?."
    If you had read the American Cancer Society warning, they said RF causes CANCER to RETURN. So reading isn't your best suite?
    So now I can quote you
    Smart meter is "What is the MAXIMUM eirp allowed in the ISM band?"- 4W/cm^2 (AMI7 produces 1.1W/cm^2 max)
    So now who is the hypocrite? Can't make up your mind?
    Come on get with the program.
    What is the DO NOT INSTALL DISTANCE of a AMI7 smart meter?

  • Guest

    Guest said ” yet your reference is from site which sell anti-radiation products…. They dont have conflict of interest?”
    Who might that be???- because I point you that you cited how hydro have conflict of interest and yet cited the same flawed sources? common.

    I ask you about mechanism not if it cause so answer to question if you want asking others. Correcting your incompetence again they dont claim that “If you had read the American Cancer Society warning, they said RF causes CANCER to RETURN. So reading isn’t your best suite? ” but rather “In theory, this might be a concern for cancer patients being treated with ionizing radiation and/or medicines that might cause cancer themselves. Animal studies have not shown evidence of this and this effect has not been studied in people.” In theory and concern not cause abd they also point that studies shows no evidence. So who have problem with reading?

    :Smart meter is “What is the MAXIMUM eirp allowed in the ISM band?” 4W/cm^2 Im wrong ? where I wrote anything about that AMI7 produces 1.1W/cm^2 max? Do you have delusions?

    So I renew my question How radiation can cause cancer (mechanism)?

  • Frederique Zug

    I never said smart meters cause cancer for healthy folks. I DID say the American Cancer Society warns us that RF brings back cancer. What difference does it make??????
    RF KILLS HOMEOWNERS.

  • greg smith

    Really????Care to elaborate, have u got some interesting articles to read.

  • Guest

    I DID say the American Cancer Society and here you are also wrong:

    ” concern has been voiced that cells in the body that have been damaged by exposure to some other substance might somehow be more likely to become cancerous when exposed to RF waves. In theory, this might be a concern for cancer patients being treated with ionizing radiation and/or medicines that might cause cancer themselves. ” What the say that concern has been voiced, this only is theory not supported by studies “Animal studies have not shown evidence of this and this effect has not been studied in people.” This only show in how many fields studies are performed

    “RF KILLS HOMEOWNERS.” another your statement how kill? In the same comment at the beginning you wrote “I never said smart meters cause cancer for healthy folks.”you deny to yourself

  • Frederique Zug

    Of special concern are people with implanted medical devices like deep-brain stimulators for Parkinson’s, some pacemakers, insulin pumps, and in-home hospital equipment. The radiofrequency interference (RFI) inherent to Smart Grids can cause such equipment to go haywire, or even to stop. And RFI from ambient exposures has caused wheelchairs to go off peers or into traffic; automatic ignition switches in cars refuse to start until cars are towed to RF-free blocks; and surgical beds have jumped during operations.
    RFI is also suspected in sudden acceleration of automobiles.

    The World Health Organization – International Agency for Research on Cancer May, 2011
    “The Working Group did not quantitate the risk;
    however, one study of past cell phone use (up to the year 2004), showed a 40% increased risk for gliomas in the highest category of heavy users (reported average: 30 minutes per day over a 10 year period)… *the evidence, while still accumulating, is strong enough to support a conclusion … that there could be some risk*, and therefore we need to keep a close watch for a link between cell phones and cancer risk.
    Let me count the ways.

  • Guest

    Of special concern are people with implanted medical devices like…..- this phenomenon is called Electromagnetic interference and can be caused even by hair dryer. But this is old history, you begin to lose in the comments becauce I explained this to you in past comments. I will do one more time now this devices have developed a detailed test method to measure EMI of for example implanted cardiac pacemakers and defibrillators from cell phones. This test method is now part of a standard also do you hear term Electromagnetic compatibility? which refers to the ability of electronic devices of different types to operate in an electromagnetic environment without loss of intended function. The EMC of the affected device affects the degree of malfunction that may occur. Newer devices are designed according to more stringent standards, with attention to shielding and electromagnetic immunity, and are less susceptible to EMI. Equipment manufactured before 1993 are more susceptible to EMI as compared with more modern equipment, which are now subject to International Electrotechnical Commission Standard 60601-1-2. Even more higher standards are required for critical and life-support devices. This mean that in this time if such case are happend the fault lies with the manufacturer not smart grid (or other electric device). About study from 2004 from this study WHO set classification 2B “possibly carcinogenic to humans,” is the same risk level WHO ascribes to coffee and pickled vegetables. This meand that agent in even one study show little assocation but this is not evidence more likely precautionary principle. This study was based on 10 years use now we have studies 15 and 20 years use showing no link. Good sources are scandinavia nations because their the earliest started to use cell phones. THats why theirs reports are most valuable

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    Also dont forget this studies are cross-sectional type and Correlation does not imply causation, smoking also cause cancer yes? but, smoking in past years decline cancer increase conclusion? smoking protect agains cancer you see the error in this reasoning? but this is cross-sectional studies with one error. Belive me even small error can cause that entire study is flawed such as economic status wrong adjustment or other factors. So if you have cross-sectionall studies you take group of them check for what author adjust and seek correlation and even then you dont have confidence because always is chance that some factors cause flaws.

  • Frederique Zug

    Implanted medical devices
    Manufacturers of medical devices recommend a minimum separation of 15.3 centimetres (6 inches) between a wireless device and an implanted medical device, such as a pacemaker or implanted cardioverter defibrillator, to avoid
    potential interference with the medical device. Persons who have such devices should: Always keep the wireless device more than 15.3 centimetres (6 inches) from the medical
    device
    Should read and follow the directions from the manufacturer of your implantable medical device. if you have any questions about using your wireless phone with such a device, consult your health care provider.
    Should turn the phone OFF immediately if there is any reason to suspect that interference is taking place.

    Of special concern are people with implanted medical devices like deep-brain stimulators for Parkinson’s, some pacemakers, insulin pumps, and in-home hospital equipment. The radiofrequency interference (RFI) inherent to Smart Grids can cause such equipment to go haywire, or even to stop. And RFI from ambient exposures has caused wheelchairs to go off peers or into traffic; automatic ignition switches in cars refuse to start until cars are towed to
    RF-free blocks; and surgical beds have jumped during operations.
    RFI is also suspected in sudden acceleration of automobiles.

  • Guest

    When you wrote comment wrote something yours, because here you only copy others words.

    “Implanted medical devices

    Manufacturers of medical devices recommend a minimum separation of 15.3 centimetres (6 inches) between a wireless device and an implanted medical device, such as a pacemaker or implanted cardioverter defibrillator, to avoid”

    Why they wrote this? because like I say some use older technology and are at risk of EMI. I wrote you how this changes in our times. “The Association for the Advancement of Medical Instrumentation (AAMI) published Technical Information Report (TIR) 18, Guidance on electromagnetic compatibility of medical devices for clinical/biomedical engineers -Part 1: Radiated radio-frequency electromagnetic energy. TIR 18 provides information and guidance on medical device EMC to clinical engineers and other biomedical personnel to help them evaluate the radiated radio-frequency (RF) electromagnetic environment in their individual health-care facilities and implement actions needed to minimize the potential risks associated with electromagnetic interference (EMI) problems. This document contains sections on assessing the RF environment in the clinic, developing policies, examples of device interactions, and a bibliography of references for device EMC.”

    “Of special concern ……… suspected in sudden acceleration of automobiles.” You wrote/copy the same in previous comment I dont see reason why you do this again, but thanks this I realize that you copy this from Havas statment…. Its like I be posting statment of mobile phone idnustry which claim that smartphones are safe, both are flawed. Havas have conflict of interest look with who she doing researchs with manufacturer of stealzer filters stetzer filters. She takes this report from eighties and nineties where I say you there was no technology with protect against EMI ( you give good example how researcher can manipulate studies results to supports their claims). She refused doing her research in free environment (without emf pollution) some tv chanell want funded this her to prove her right like I say she refused.

  • Frederique Zug

    Of special concern are people with implanted medical devices like deep-brain stimulators for Parkinson’s, some pacemakers, insulin pumps, and in-home hospital equipment. The radiofrequency interference (RFI) inherent to Smart Grids can cause such equipment to go haywire.
    So please the world that a patient with deep brain stimulators are 100% safe at ANY distance.

    Can you do that?

  • Guest

    Now you only copy information for the third time to which they I replied check my previous comments.

  • Greg Mahlknecht

    I thought I’d humour you and check that article out. Just like every similar article, you can trace it and/or its sources back to people directly profiting off the anti-EMF bandwagon.

    Here’s an article which pretty much destroys the credibility of every item in that Hardell “study” you linked to. You’d be best to not use that study any more or cite it as credible, because anybody who actually follows up on it will know that there really is no evidence to support your view.

    http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/critique-of-risk-of-brain-tumors-from-wireless-phone-use/

    And don’t just dismiss it has someone hating your viewpoint, actually read and understand it – you’re being lied to and you are helping spread the lies and basically being played for a fool to help the guys that throw together these BS studies to profit off the hysteria that is created.

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